There’s nothing contemporary about conspiracy theories, disinformation, and untruths in politics. What is contemporary is how hasty malicious actors can unfold disinformation when the field is tightly linked within the future of social networks and web files sites. We are in a position to quit on the voice of affairs and rely upon the platforms themselves to truth-check stories or posts and hide out disinformation—or we can assemble contemporary tools to lend a hand people name disinformation as quickly as it crosses their displays.

Preslav Nakov is a computer scientist on the Qatar Computing Study Institute in Doha specializing in speech and language processing. He leads a mission utilizing machine finding out to evaluate the reliability of media sources. That enables his crew to safe files articles alongside signals about their trustworthiness and political biases, all in a Google News-cherish format.

“That you can presumably presumably no longer presumably truth-check each claim on the earth,” Nakov explains. As a change, point of interest on the source. “I cherish to claim that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to truth-check the faux files sooner than it used to be even written.” His crew’s tool, known as the Tanbih News Aggregator, is on hand in Arabic and English and gathers articles in areas a lot like commercial, politics, sports activities, science and technology, and covid-19.

Business Lab is hosted by Laurel Ruma, editorial director of Insights, the custom publishing division of MIT Abilities Overview. The existing is a producing of MIT Abilities Overview, with manufacturing lend a hand from Collective Next.

This podcast used to be produced in partnership with the Qatar Foundation.

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Tanbih News Aggregator

Qatar Computing Study Institute

“Even the genuine AI for recognizing faux files is still terrible,” MIT Abilities Overview, October 3, 2018

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Laurel Ruma: From MIT Abilities Overview, I’m Laurel Ruma, and right here’s Business Lab, the existing that helps commercial leaders maintain sense of most up-to-date applied sciences popping out of the lab and into the marketplace. Our matter this day is disinformation. From faux files, to propaganda, to deep fakes, it will also seem cherish there is not any defense against weaponized files. Nonetheless, scientists are researching suggestions to hasty name disinformation to no longer most efficient lend a hand regulators and tech companies, but moreover electorate, as all of us navigate this courageous contemporary world collectively.

Two phrases for you: spreading infodemic.

My customer is Dr. Preslav Nakov, who’s a fundamental scientist on the Qatar Computing Study Institute. He leads the Tanbih mission, which used to be developed in collaboration with MIT. He’s moreover the lead fundamental investigator of a QCRI MIT collaboration mission on Arabic speech and language processing for imperfect language files search and truth verification. This episode of Business Lab is produced in association with the Qatar Foundation. Welcome, Dr. Nakov.

Preslav Nakov: Thanks for having me.

Laurel Ruma: So why are we deluged with so powerful online disinformation correct now? This isn’t a brand contemporary voice of affairs, correct?

Nakov: Unnecessary to voice, it’s no longer a brand contemporary voice of affairs. It’s no longer the case that it’s for the first time within the historical past of the universe that contributors are telling lies or media are telling lies. We had the yellow press, we had all these tabloids for years. It turned a voice of affairs as a consequence of of the upward thrust of social media, when it all right this moment has become that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to evaluate of to trust a message that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to ship to millions and millions of people. And no longer most efficient that, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even now speak alternative things to different people. So, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even microprofile people and that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even raise them a selected customized message that’s designed, crafted for a selected particular person with a selected cause to press a selected button on them. The main voice of affairs with faux files is not any longer that it’s spurious. The main voice of affairs is that the tips truly acquired weaponized, and right here’s one thing that Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the creator of the World Huge Internet has been complaining about: that his invention used to be weaponized.

Laurel: Yeah, Tim Berners-Lee is clearly distraught that this has occurred, and it’s no longer merely in one country or one more. It’s truly within the future of the field. So is there an trusty incompatibility between faux files, propaganda, and disinformation?

Nakov: Walk, there could be. I don’t cherish the term “faux files.” Here’s the term that has picked up: it used to be declared “observe of the three hundred and sixty five days” by several dictionaries in numerous years, at this time after the earlier presidential election within the US. The voice of affairs with faux files is that, to begin with, there’s no positive definition. I really trust been looking into dictionaries, how they define the term. One main dictionary acknowledged, “we’re no longer truly going to define the term the least bit, as a consequence of it’s one thing self-explanatory—now we trust ‘files,’ now we trust ‘faux,’ and it’s files that’s faux; it’s compositional; it used to be earlier the 19th century—there could be nothing to define.” Various people keep different that manner into this. To a pair people, faux files is merely files they don’t cherish, no matter whether it is spurious. Nevertheless the principle voice of affairs with faux files is that it truly misleads people, and sadly, even positive main truth-checking organizations, to most efficient point of interest on one thing, whether it’s upright or no longer.

I decide, and most researchers working on this decide, the term “disinformation.” And right here’s a term that’s adopted by main organizations cherish the United Nations, NATO, the European Union. And disinformation is one thing that has an extraordinarily positive definition. It has two parts. First, it is one thing that’s spurious, and second, it has a malicious intent: intent to maintain afflict. And all over again, the colossal majority of analysis, the colossal majority of efforts, many truth-checking initiatives, point of interest on whether one thing is upright or no longer. And it’s normally the second section that’s admittedly necessary. The section whether there could be malicious intent. And right here’s truly what Sir Tim Berners-Lee used to be talking about when he first talked relating to the weaponization of the tips. The main voice of affairs with faux files—whereas you focus on to journalists, they’ll speak you this—the principle voice of affairs with faux files is not any longer that it is spurious. The voice of affairs is that it is a political weapon.

And propaganda. What is propaganda? Propaganda is a term that’s orthogonal to disinformation. Again, disinformation has two parts. It’s spurious and it has malicious intent. Propaganda moreover has two parts. One is, someone is trying to convince us of one thing. And second, there could be a predefined purpose. Now, we ought to listen. Propaganda is not any longer upright; it’s no longer spurious. It’s no longer upright; it’s no longer spoiled. That’s no longer section of the definition. So, if a authorities has a marketing campaign to persuade the final public to get vaccinated, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to argue that’s for a upright cause, or let’s mumble Greta Thunberg seeking to dread us that hundreds of species are getting extinct each day. Here’s a propaganda methodology: entice pains. Nevertheless that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to argue that’s for a upright cause. So, propaganda is not any longer spoiled; it’s no longer upright. It’s no longer upright; it’s no longer spurious.

Laurel: Nevertheless propaganda has the purpose to maintain one thing. And, and by forcing that purpose, it is de facto intriguing to that pains component. So as that’s the excellence between disinformation and propaganda, is the pains.

Nakov: No, pains is merely one in every of the ways. Now we trust been looking into this. So, masses of analysis has been specializing in binary classification. Is this upright? Is this spurious? Is this propaganda? Is this no longer propaganda? Now we trust seemed fairly bit deeper. Now we trust been looking into what ways trust been earlier to maintain propaganda. And all over again, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to chat about propaganda, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to chat about persuasion or public kin, or mass communique. It’s in overall the the same thing. Various terms for roughly the the same thing. And relating to propaganda ways, there are two forms. The main kind are appeals to emotions: it will also be entice pains, it will also be entice solid emotions, it will also be entice patriotic feelings, etc and so forth. And the diverse half of are logical fallacies: things cherish dim-and-white fallacy. As an instance, you’re either with us or against us. Or bandwagon. Bandwagon is cherish, oh, the most contemporary poll exhibits that 57% are going to vote for Hillary, so we are on the correct aspect of historical past, or no longer it is a must to be a part of us.

There are several different propaganda ways. There is crimson herring, there could be intentional obfuscation. Now we trust seemed into 18 of these: half of of them entice emotions, and half of of them spend positive forms of logical fallacies, or broken logical reasoning. And now we trust built tools to detect these in texts, so that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to really existing them to the patron and maintain this specific, so that contributors can realize how they’re being manipulated.

Laurel: So within the context of the covid-19 pandemic, the director overall of the World Well being Organization acknowledged, and I quote, “We’re no longer merely stopping an outbreak; we’re stopping an infodemic.” How maintain you define infodemic? What are some of these ways in which we can spend to moreover steer positive of immoral convey material?

Nakov: Infodemic, right here’s one thing contemporary. In actuality, MIT Abilities Overview had a pair of three hundred and sixty five days ago, final three hundred and sixty five days in February, had a colossal article that used to be talking about that. The covid-19 pandemic has given upward thrust to the first global social media infodemic. And all over again, within the future of the the same time, the World Well being Organization, again in February, had on their web plight a list of prime 5 priorities within the fight against the pandemic, and stopping the infodemic used to be amount two, amount two within the checklist of the tip 5 priorities. So, it’s positively a colossal voice of affairs. What’s the infodemic? It’s a merger of a virulent disease and the pre-existing disinformation that used to be already most up-to-date in social media. It’s moreover a mixing of political and health disinformation. Sooner than that, the political section, and, let’s mumble, the anti-vaxxer motion, these trust been separate. Now, every thing is mixed collectively.

Laurel: And that’s an exact voice of affairs. I indicate, the World Well being Organization’s remark ought to be stopping the pandemic, but then its secondary remark is stopping disinformation. Finding hope in that create of pains is extremely sophisticated. So one in every of the initiatives that you’re working on is believed as Tanbih. And Tanbih is a files aggregator, correct? That uncovers disinformation. So the mission itself has a form of targets. One is to expose stance, bias, and propaganda within the tips. The second is to promote different viewpoints and decide users. Nevertheless then the third is to restrict the enact of pretend files. How does Tanbih work?

Nakov: Tanbih started certainly as a files aggregator, and it has grown into one thing moderately greater than that, into a mission, which is a mega-mission within the Qatar Computing Study Institute. And it spans people from several groups within the institute, and it is developed in cooperation with MIT. We started the mission with the purpose of growing tools that we can truly keep within the palms of the final users. And we determined to maintain that as section of a files aggregator, judge of one thing cherish Google News. And as users are finding out the tips, we are signaling to them when one thing is propagandistic, and we’re giving them background files relating to the source. What we are doing is we are examining media upfront and we are constructing media profiles. So we are showing, telling users to what extent the convey material is propagandistic. We are telling them whether the tips is from a loyal source or no longer, whether it is biased: left, heart, correct bias. Whether or no longer it is outrageous: outrageous left, outrageous correct. Also, whether it is biased with admire to specific issues.

And right here’s one thing that’s extremely handy. So, trust that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even very properly be finding out some article that’s skeptical about global warming. If we recommend you, witness, this files outlet has continually been very biased within the the same manner, then you definately’ll doubtlessly take it with a grain of salt. We are moreover showing the attitude of reporting, the framing. Whereas you judge it, covid-19, Brexit, any main occasion will also be reported from different views. As an instance, let’s take covid-19. It has a health remark, that’s for positive, but it with out a doubt moreover has an economic remark, even a political remark, it has a high quality-of-lifestyles remark, it has a human rights remark, a upright remark. Thus, we are profiling the media and we are letting users ogle what their standpoint is.

Concerning the media profiles, we are further exposing them as a browser plugin, so that as that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even very properly be visiting different web sites, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to really click on the plugin and you is also in a position to get very transient background files relating to the safe plight. And that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even gain a contrivance to moreover click on a link to access a more detailed profile. And right here’s extremely necessary: the purpose of ardour is on the source. Again, most analysis has been specializing in “is this claim upright or no longer?” And is this portion of files upright or no longer? That’s most efficient half of of the voice of affairs. The several half of is admittedly whether it is immoral, which is the least bit times neglected.

The several thing is that we can not presumably truth-check each claim on the earth. Now not manually, no longer robotically. Manually, that’s out of the question. There used to be a look from MIT Media Lab about two years ago, where they trust got carried out a expansive look on many, many tweets. And it has been shown that spurious files goes six instances farther and spreads powerful faster than trusty files. There used to be one more look that’s powerful much less mighty, but I gain it necessary, which exhibits that 50% of the lifetime unfold of some very viral faux files happens within the first 10 minutes. In the first 10 minutes! Manual truth-checking takes a day or two, infrequently a week.

Automatic truth-checking? How maintain we truth-check a claim? Well, if we are lucky, if the claim is that the US financial system grew 10% final three hundred and sixty five days, that claim we can robotically check without remark, by looking into Wikipedia or some statistical desk. Nevertheless within the occasion that they mumble, there used to be a bomb in this little town two minutes ago? Well, we can not truly truth-check it, as a consequence of to truth-check it robotically, now we want to trust some files from somewhere. We want to witness what the media are going to jot down about it or how users are going to react to it. And both of these take time to amass. So, in overall now we don’t trust any files to check it. What maintain we maintain? What we are proposing is to transfer at a greater granularity, to point of interest on the source. And right here’s what journalists are doing. Journalists are looking into: are there two fair trusted sources which would perchance be claiming this?

So we are examining media. Even if spoiled people keep a claim in social media, they’re doubtlessly going to position a link to a web plight where one can gain a full epic. Yet, they are able to not make a brand contemporary faux files web plight for every faux claim that they’re making. They’ll reuse them. Thus, we can show screen what are the most frequently earlier web sites, and we can analyze them upfront. And, I cherish to claim that we can truth-check the faux files sooner than it used to be even written. Since the second when it’s written, the second when it’s keep in social media and there’s a link to a web plight, if now we trust this web plight in our growing database of regularly analyzed web sites, we can without delay speak you whether right here’s a legit web plight or no longer. Unnecessary to voice, legit web sites could perchance presumably even want moreover dejected files, upright web sites could perchance presumably presumably infrequently be immoral as properly. Nevertheless we can give you an prompt understanding.

Past the tips aggregator, we started looking into doing analytics, but moreover we are growing tools for media literacy which would perchance be showing to people the cultured-grained propaganda ways highlighted within the text: the mutter areas where propaganda is occurring and its specific form. And within the rupture, we are constructing tools that can toughen truth-checkers of their work. And these are all over again issues which would perchance be normally neglected, but extremely necessary for truth-checkers. Particularly, what is worth truth-checking within the first situation. Take into accout a presidential debate. There are greater than 1,000 sentences which trust been acknowledged. You, as a truth-checker can check presumably 10 or 20 of these. Which ones are you going to truth-check first? What are the most intriguing ones? We are in a position to lend a hand prioritize this. Or there are millions and millions of tweets about covid-19 on a day-to-day basis. And which of these that you can cherish to truth-check as a truth-checker?

The second voice of affairs is detecting previously truth-checked claims. One voice of affairs with truth-checking technology for the time being is quality, but the second section is lack of credibility. Imagine an interview with a flesh presser. Are you able to assign the flesh presser on the assign of abode? Imagine a system that robotically does speech recognition, that’s easy, after which does truth-checking. And all at if you mumble, “Oh, Mr. X, my AI tells me that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even very properly be now 96% likely to be mendacity. Are you able to define on that? Why are you mendacity?” That you can presumably presumably no longer maintain that. Because you don’t trust the system. That you can presumably presumably no longer keep the flesh presser on the assign of abode in trusty time or for the duration of a political debate. Nevertheless if the system comes again and says: he merely acknowledged one thing that has been truth-checked by this trusted truth-checking organization. And right here’s the claim that he made, and right here’s the claim that used to be truth-checked, and ogle, we realize it’s spurious. Then you definately’ll gain a contrivance to position him on the assign of abode. Here’s one thing that can potentially revolutionize journalism.

Laurel: So getting again to that time about analytics. To get into the technical limited print of it, how does Tanbih spend man made intelligence and deep neural networks to analyze that convey material, if it’s coming within the future of so powerful records, so many tweets?

Nakov: Tanbih within the starting assign used to be no longer truly specializing in tweets. Tanbih has been focusing basically on mainstream media. As I acknowledged, we are examining complete files shops, so that we are prepared. Because all over again, there’s an extraordinarily solid connection between social media and web sites. It’s no longer ample merely to position a claim on the Internet and unfold it. It’ll unfold, but persons are going to peek it as a rumor as a consequence of there’s no source, there is not any further corroboration. So, you proceed to want to witness into a web plight. After which, as I acknowledged, by looking into the source, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to get an understanding whether that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even very properly be looking to want to trust this claim among different files sources. And the diverse manner round: when we are profiling media, we are examining the text of what the media submit.

So, we would mumble, “OK, let’s witness into just a few hundred or just a few thousand articles by this design files outlet.” Then we would moreover witness into how this medium self-represents in social media. Many of these web sites trust moreover social media accounts: how maintain people react to what they trust got been printed in Twitter, in Facebook? After which if the media trust different forms of channels, to illustrate, within the occasion that they’ve a YouTube channel, we’re going to drag to it and analyze that as properly. So we’ll witness into no longer most efficient what they mumble, but how they mumble it, and right here’s one thing that comes from the speech label. If there could be masses of entice emotions, we can detect some of it in text, but some of it we can truly get from the tone.

We are moreover looking into what others write about this medium, to illustrate, what is written about them in Wikipedia. And we are striking all this collectively. We are moreover examining the photos which would perchance be keep on this web plight. We are examining the connections between the safe sites. The connection between a web plight and its readers, the overlap in relation to users between different web sites. After which we are utilizing different forms of graph neural networks. So, in relation to neural networks, we’re utilizing different forms of gadgets. It’s basically deep contextualized text representation in conserving with transformers; that’s what you normally maintain for text for the time being. We are moreover utilizing graph neural networks and we’re utilizing different forms of convolutional neural networks for image evaluation. And we are moreover utilizing neural networks for speech evaluation.

Laurel: So what maintain we learn by finding out this create of disinformation space by space or by language? How can that really lend a hand governments and healthcare organizations fight disinformation?

Nakov: We are in a position to in overall give them aggregated facts about what is occurring, in conserving with a schema that now we trust been growing for evaluation of the tweets. Now we trust designed an extraordinarily comprehensive schema. Now we trust been looking no longer most efficient into whether a tweet is upright or no longer, but moreover into whether it’s spreading fear, or it is promoting spoiled medication, or xenophobia, racism. We are robotically detecting whether the tweet is asking an extraordinarily powerful question that presumably a positive authorities entity could perchance presumably presumably want to acknowledge to. As an instance, one such question final three hundred and sixty five days used to be: is covid-19 going to go within the summer? It’s one thing that presumably health authorities could perchance presumably presumably want to acknowledge to.

Various things trust been offering advice or discussing motion taken, and that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to evaluate of cures. So now we trust been looking into no longer most efficient harmful things, things that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably presumably presumably act on, try and restrict, things cherish fear or racism, xenophobia—things cherish “don’t spend Chinese meals,” “don’t spend Italian meals.” Or things cherish blaming the authorities for their motion or voice of no job, which governments could perchance presumably presumably want to be all ears to and ogle to what extent it is justified and within the occasion that they want to maintain one thing about it. Also, an extraordinarily powerful thing a policy maker could perchance presumably presumably decide is to show screen social media and detect when there could be discussion of a that that it’s most likely you’ll presumably gain a contrivance to evaluate of medication. And if it’s a upright medication, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably presumably presumably want to listen. If it’s a spoiled medication, that it’s most likely you’ll presumably presumably presumably moreover want to speak people: don’t spend that spoiled medication. And discussion of motion taken, or a call for motion. If there are masses of these that mumble “terminate the barbershops,” that it’s most likely you’ll presumably presumably presumably want to witness why they’re announcing that and whether that it’s most likely you’ll presumably even very properly be looking to want to hear.

Laurel: Exact. Since the authorities wants to show screen this disinformation for the specific cause of serving to all people no longer take these spoiled cures, correct. Now not proceed down the path of thinking this propaganda or disinformation is upright. So is it a authorities motion to administration disinformation on social media? Or maintain you judge it’s up to the tech companies to create of form it out themselves?

Nakov: So as that’s a upright question. Two years ago, I was invited by the Inter-Parliamentary Union’s Assembly. They had invited three consultants and there trust been 800 participants of parliament from countries within the future of the field. And for 3 hours, they trust been asking us questions, in overall going within the future of the central matter: what forms of regulations can they, the nationwide parliaments, drag so that they get a resolution to the voice of affairs of disinformation as soon as and for all. And, of route, the consensus on the tip used to be that that’s a advanced voice of affairs and there’s no easy resolution.

Sure create of regulations positively plays a characteristic. In quite a bit of countries, positive forms of hate speech is against the law. And in quite a bit of countries, there are positive create of regulations in relation to elections and commercials at election time that follow to long-established media and moreover lengthen to the safe home. And there trust been masses of most up-to-date requires regulations in UK, within the European Union, even within the US. And that’s an extraordinarily heated debate, but right here’s a advanced voice of affairs, and there’s no easy resolution. And there are necessary players there and these players want to work collectively.

So positive regulations? Walk. Nevertheless, you moreover want the cooperation of the social media companies, for the reason that disinformation is occurring of their platforms. They normally’re in an extraordinarily upright plight, the genuine plight truly, to restrict the unfold or to maintain one thing. Or to educate their users, to educate them, that doubtlessly they ought to no longer unfold every thing that they read. After which the non-authorities organizations, journalists, the full truth-checking efforts, right here’s moreover necessary. And I am hoping that the efforts that we as researchers are striking in constructing such tools, would moreover be precious in that admire.

One thing that now we want to be all ears to is that in relation to law by means of regulations, we ought to no longer judge necessarily what maintain we maintain about this or that particular particular person firm. We ought to evaluate more within the lengthy term. And we ought to be careful to guard free speech. So it’s create of a elegant steadiness.

When it comes to faux files, disinformation. The most efficient case where someone has declared victory, and the finest resolution that now we trust considered truly to work, is the case of Finland. Abet in Would perchance 2019, Finland has formally declared that they’ve acquired the battle on faux files. It took them 5 years. They started working on that after the events in Crimea; they felt threatened they normally started an extraordinarily valorous media literacy marketing campaign. They focused basically on colleges, but moreover centered universities and all stages of society. Nevertheless, of route, basically colleges. They trust been instructing college students easy guidelines on how to speak whether one thing is fishy. If it makes you too wrathful, presumably one thing is not any longer correct. How to maintain, let’s mumble, reverse image search to check whether this image that’s shown is admittedly from this occasion or from somewhere else. And in 5 years, they trust got declared victory.

So, to me, media literacy is the genuine lengthy-term resolution. And that’s why I’m in particular elated with our tool for aesthetic-grained propaganda evaluation, as a consequence of it truly exhibits the users how they’re being manipulated. And I’m in a position to speak you that my hope is that after people trust interacted fairly bit with a platform cherish this, they’ll learn these ways. And subsequent time they’ll admire them by themselves. They couldn’t want the platform. And it occurred to me and several different researchers who trust worked on this voice of affairs, it occurred to us, and now I will be capable of not read the tips properly anymore. Every time I read the tips, I assign of abode these ways as a consequence of I do know them and I’m in a position to admire them. If more people can get to that level, that will most certainly be upright.

Maybe social media companies can maintain one thing cherish that after a consumer registers on their platform, they could perchance presumably presumably quiz the contemporary users to take some digital literacy quick route, after which drag one thing cherish an examination. After which, of route, presumably we ought to trust authorities packages cherish that. The case of Finland exhibits that, if the authorities intervenes and puts in situation the correct packages, the faux files is one thing that will also be solved. I am hoping that faux files is going to head the form of unsolicited mail. It’s no longer going to be eradicated. Junk mail is still there, but it with out a doubt’s no longer the create of voice of affairs that it used to be 20 years ago.

Laurel: And that’s media literacy. And even supposing it does take 5 years to eradicate this create of disinformation or merely fortify society’s belief of media literacy and what’s disinformation, elections occur fairly incessantly. And so that could perchance presumably presumably be a colossal situation to initiate up focused on easy guidelines on how to stop this voice of affairs. Love you acknowledged, if it turns into cherish unsolicited mail, it turns into one thing that you take care of each day, but you don’t truly judge or pains about anymore. And it’s no longer going to totally flip over democracy. That appears to be like to me an extraordinarily attainable purpose.

Laurel: Dr. Nakov, thanks so powerful for becoming a member of us this day on what’s been an at ease dialog on the Business Lab.

Nakov: Thanks for having me.

Laurel: That used to be Dr. Preslav Nakov, a fundamental scientist on the Qatar Computing Study Institute, who I spoke with from Cambridge, Massachusetts, the home of MIT and MIT Abilities Overview, overlooking the Charles River.

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